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Saul



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rik, thank you for your comment !

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makes me think that your setup has the rear lens focused somewhere other than infinity


Rechecked - you are right ! Before I focused my tube lens to the distant tree. I had to focus to the "very very" distant tree Sad This difference gave me wrong understanding, that I can make "micro" magnification adjustments by changing distance between tube lens and objective.

Thanks for the link. Few years ago in the the printed Edmund catalog version I saw very similar information (not available in the later editions)



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It is important to note that 76.5mm is the recommended distance since these objectives are infinity corrected. However, if the distance is too short, the system may experience vignetting


How too short distance can cause vignetting ? In the combination with the normal 200mm (70-200 other members or 70-300 in my case) lens we are trying to keep objective as close as possible . With Sigma Life size attachment - same story ( with bigger distance results were not good). When I tested Mitutoyo 5x/Reichert tube lens, gap was around 1cm and results were pretty good
http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30766

Am I missing something ?
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated head version



... and some details

http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30985
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I mentioned in the one of the previous posts, I was looking for something to replace my horizontal setup which could be used in the field and studio and could be used in the manual and auto modes.
http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30925&highlight=deltron

Finally my purchase has arrived... Assembly took few minutes, except 1/4 hole for the tripod at the bottom - had to spend some time to assemble back linear bearings.









Movement is ~2.0 - 2.5mm per turn, what is OK for my horizontal lower magnification shots. For the high magnification I'm using vertical setup
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more update for the focus stacking setup head ( I hope it is last one ... ).

Changes:
-shortened nosepiece with bracket. Now it allows me easily interchange different parts.
-shortened trinocular head top port "neck" - now I can keep infinity distance between sensor and Sigma Life size attachment - no need to use original Reichert tube lens (which is little bit worse than Sigma ) inside trinocular head and allows to use finite objectives when needed.






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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mitutoyo/Reichert tube lens assembly for Nikon Labophot. Missed something in the 3D model, had to adjust manually.






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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horizontal setup with Del-Tron


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most recent vertical setup with Labophot base



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had forgotten this thread, and I see that one of your earlier questions went unanswered.

Saul wrote:
Question...

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It is important to note that 76.5mm is the recommended distance since these objectives are infinity corrected. However, if the distance is too short, the system may experience vignetting; if the distance is too long, the resultant image will be dim because of insufficient light.

How too short distance can cause vignetting ?
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Am I missing something ?

No, you're not missing anything. The author of that bit was confused.

If the distance is too short, the system may experience aberrations (depends on the tube lens), but short distance certainly will not add vignetting.

I have added to your quote the original continuation, about if the distance is too long, the resultant image will be dim because of insufficient light. This is not quite correct either, but there is a grain of truth in it. No light is lost due to distance per se. However, if the distance becomes too long then vignetting will start to occur, and the first symptoms of that will be corner darkening as edge rays are blocked.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rjlittlefield wrote:
I had forgotten this thread, and I see that one of your earlier questions went unanswered.


Thanks Rik ! Looks like bottom line is - balance between vignetting and aberrations.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting setups, thanks for sharing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rjlittlefield wrote:
... If the distance is too short, the system may experience aberrations...


Thanks Rik, sorry for the late reply !
So, only way to check aberrations - make tests at the different distances between objective and tube lens ?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Small improvement to my Labophot stacking base - I got it without the light, had to use Jansjo through the back opening. Few cheap ebay parts - 10W led 272389345999 , heatsink 182195476144 & LED dimmer 282671724717 - now I have a comfort adjusting background brightness


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet setup Saul.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smokedaddy wrote:
Sweet setup Saul.


Thanks James, it keeps my blood pressure lower Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you happy with the spectrum of the LED?
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