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Arron
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Another ID needed please

Post by Arron »

Hi. Once again, apologies for the quality, but I have another 'bird-assisted macro' with a wasp I would like to identify. Taken just north of Sydney, Australia.

The abdomen is red above and black below.

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Any clues on ID, to family or genus level, would be appreciated.

cheers
Arron

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Post by DaveW »

Done a Web search Arron and it seems to be a Rainbow Bee Eater:-

http://www.anbg.gov.au/birds/birds-cayl ... ayley.html

http://www.davidkphotography.com/?showimage=981

Looking at pictures of "Rainbow Bee Eaters" on the Web though they seem to be quite variable as to markings, maybe if they are in breeding plumage or not when the picture was taken?

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Post by ChrisR »

Well done Dave
:smt038
However, I do suspect Arron was after an ID for the buggy thing at the pointy end of the bird?
:smt040

A shot I'd be very pleased to have taken, by the way Arron.
:smt023

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Post by DaveW »

Have not time to do a search at the moment, but this key may prove useful:-

http://www.backyardnature.net/in_order.htm

When you have identified the Order these are the insects of Australia:-

http://agspsrv34.agric.wa.gov.au/ento/i ... gelist.IDC

I suspect being a Bee Eater it is either a bee or a wasp?

Harold should know better?

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Post by NikonUser »

ChrisR wrote:Well done Dave
:smt038
However, I do suspect Arron was after an ID for the buggy thing at the pointy end of the bird?
:smt040
I just luv your (& the Brits in general) witticism
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Post by ChrisR »

Dave's a Brit, he can take it :wink:

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Post by DaveW »

The English never take themselves seriously, that is why you can't insult them! Don't try it with the Scots though! :lol:

Anyway I thought he wanted to know what the bird was the insect had grabbed by the beak?

DaveW

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Post by Harold Gough »

It seems to me that Arron likes to boast that he has a "gorgeous bird" helping him with his macro. :lol:

The insect looks like a sawfly (Hymenoptera Symphyta)

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Post by NikonUser »

Harold Gough wrote: The insect looks like a sawfly (Hymenoptera Symphyta)
Harold
You may be correct, but I believe I can see a waist :idea:
NU.
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Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.

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Post by DaveW »

"You may be correct, but I believe I can see a waist."

Put that woman down then and identify the insect on screen! :shock:

DaveW :)

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Post by NikonUser »

DaveW wrote:"You may be correct, but I believe I can see a waist."

Put that woman down then and identify the insect on screen! :shock:

DaveW :)
Is this British humour?, or witticism?, or sarcasm? Whatever, I don't get it.

If I knew what is was I would not hesitate. Two concepts here that don't necessarily relate to each.

I know what it isn't, not a sawfly, not a butterfly, etc., but that doesn't mean that I know what it is.

Rumsfeld said it best
".....because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns;
that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know."
NU.
student of entomology
Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.

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Post by Harold Gough »

NikonUser wrote:
Harold Gough wrote: The insect looks like a sawfly (Hymenoptera Symphyta)
Harold
You may be correct, but I believe I can see a waist :idea:
On further examination, I think there may be enough visible to make it Apocryta.

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