User experience from using in-camera focus bracketing
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Has any member here tried in-camera focus bracketing, with Raynox DCR-150 over the kit auto zoom 40-150mm? Does it work reasonably well?
I am guessing working distance/minimal focus distance is around 6 inch or so, and focusing should be easier, if I back off a bit from that minimal focus distance?
Thank you very much.
I think I may be getting the camera first (likely a E-M5 Mark II for family use), use the Raynox DCR-150 for macro for now, then upgrade to the Oly 60mm macro in the future.
I am guessing working distance/minimal focus distance is around 6 inch or so, and focusing should be easier, if I back off a bit from that minimal focus distance?
Thank you very much.
I think I may be getting the camera first (likely a E-M5 Mark II for family use), use the Raynox DCR-150 for macro for now, then upgrade to the Oly 60mm macro in the future.
Hello!
I'm an E-M1 Mark II and 60 mm macro user. It's an awesome combination for focus bracketing in the field!
The Raynox lenses doesn't work with my 40-150 Pro lens regarding focus bracketing.
They DO work very well with the 60 mm lens.
See some of my field work here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/crisarg/a ... 4789017865
I'm an E-M1 Mark II and 60 mm macro user. It's an awesome combination for focus bracketing in the field!
The Raynox lenses doesn't work with my 40-150 Pro lens regarding focus bracketing.
They DO work very well with the 60 mm lens.
See some of my field work here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/crisarg/a ... 4789017865
Thank you, Cristian. Your images are beautiful!
When you said that Raynox lenses did not work with your 40-150mm pro lens on E-M1 Mark II for focus bracketing (but they did so well with 60mm macro), what exactly did not work? Please kindly elaborate.
When you said that Raynox lenses did not work with your 40-150mm pro lens on E-M1 Mark II for focus bracketing (but they did so well with 60mm macro), what exactly did not work? Please kindly elaborate.
Last edited by zzffnn on Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Selling my Canon FD 200mm F/2.8 lens
Thank you very much, Cristian.crisarg wrote:I do get some vignetting effect in the corners (not black!), probably due to the 72-43mm adapter.
But worst, the bracketing is always stopping after a couple of exposures. I don't know exactly the cause and I didn't bother to thoroughly look after it, sorry.
I read somewhere that a firmware update is supposed to help with the bracketing stop problem. I am not positive though.
I will receive Raynox 150 in a few days and will try it with my kit zoom 40-150mm non-pro. Worst case scenario, I will use it for manual single shot macro, for now.
Those field stacks are amazing, Cristian! Especially your photo of that fly!crisarg wrote:See some of my field work here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/crisarg/a ... 4789017865
Did you hand hold the camera, while doing the focus bracketing, or did you use a monopod/tripod?
I'm really not a frequently user of DCR 150 & 250 but for a friend I've made two tests at the beginning of the year.
These tests was made with the combination M.Zuiko PRO 40-150mm f 2.8+MC14.
This lens combination is the one I use as tube lens with infinity corrected microscope objectives and using focus bracketing to make my stacks following the idea described here by chuong nguyen
http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/v ... hp?t=30177, page 3.
My operating mode is described here in French.
http://www.lenaturaliste.net/forum/view ... 86#p102451
Vanadinite from Mibladen, Maroc.
FOV 3 cm.
1/10s, F 4.0, ISO 100
62 frames
Focus bracketing step: 2
Lens combination : zoom M.ZUIKO PRO 40-150mm f 2.8+MC14+DCR 250 at 70 mm
Wulfenite from Mezicà, Slovenia.
FOV 2.5 cm.
1/20s F 4.0 ISO 100
35 frames
Focus bracketing step: 2
Lens combination : zoom M.ZUIKO PRO 40-150mm f 2.8+MC14+DCR 250 at 85 mm
These tests was made with the combination M.Zuiko PRO 40-150mm f 2.8+MC14.
This lens combination is the one I use as tube lens with infinity corrected microscope objectives and using focus bracketing to make my stacks following the idea described here by chuong nguyen
http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/v ... hp?t=30177, page 3.
My operating mode is described here in French.
http://www.lenaturaliste.net/forum/view ... 86#p102451
Vanadinite from Mibladen, Maroc.
FOV 3 cm.
1/10s, F 4.0, ISO 100
62 frames
Focus bracketing step: 2
Lens combination : zoom M.ZUIKO PRO 40-150mm f 2.8+MC14+DCR 250 at 70 mm
Wulfenite from Mezicà, Slovenia.
FOV 2.5 cm.
1/20s F 4.0 ISO 100
35 frames
Focus bracketing step: 2
Lens combination : zoom M.ZUIKO PRO 40-150mm f 2.8+MC14+DCR 250 at 85 mm
Last edited by jojm on Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
Thank you, Jean-Marc.
I like you beautiful lighting on those minerals. I have a piece of Vanadinite in my collection and enjoy it.
When you said "Lens combination : zoom M.ZUIKO PRO 40-150mm f 2.8+MC14+DCR 250 at 70 mm", that "70mm" is working distance (from Raynox to mineral), correct?
I did read a translated version of your French forum post. I learned that MC14 is 1.4x teleconverter and the zoom lens should be used at more than 135mm focal length.
I like you beautiful lighting on those minerals. I have a piece of Vanadinite in my collection and enjoy it.
When you said "Lens combination : zoom M.ZUIKO PRO 40-150mm f 2.8+MC14+DCR 250 at 70 mm", that "70mm" is working distance (from Raynox to mineral), correct?
I did read a translated version of your French forum post. I learned that MC14 is 1.4x teleconverter and the zoom lens should be used at more than 135mm focal length.
Last edited by zzffnn on Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Got my Raynox 150 on a kit zoom Oly 40-150 mm (zoomed to 150mm) just now, on my Olympus E-PM2 camera (which is an old micro 4/3 that cannot do in-camera focus bracketing).
It auto focuses pretty well, at about 7.5 inch away from subject. On-sensor magnification is about 0.75x (23 mm of ruler ticks covered my 17.30 mm wide camera sensor).
Also tried it on kit zoom 14-42 mm. No vignetting at 17mm or longer focal length. The 12-42 kit zoom lens needs a few step-up ring adapters to take the Raynox though.
Just a data point.
It auto focuses pretty well, at about 7.5 inch away from subject. On-sensor magnification is about 0.75x (23 mm of ruler ticks covered my 17.30 mm wide camera sensor).
Also tried it on kit zoom 14-42 mm. No vignetting at 17mm or longer focal length. The 12-42 kit zoom lens needs a few step-up ring adapters to take the Raynox though.
Just a data point.
Last edited by zzffnn on Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Selling my Canon FD 200mm F/2.8 lens
No, it is the focal distance of the combination Zoom+MC 14. In the case of the vanadinite that means 50 mm read on the zoom x 1.4=70mm.zzffnn wrote: When you said "Lens combination : zoom M.ZUIKO PRO 40-150mm f 2.8+MC14+DCR 250 at 70 mm", that "70mm" is working distance (from Raynox to mineral), correct?
This limit is due to vignetting with microscope objective infinity corrected installed instead of the Raynox DCR 250.zzffnn wrote: I did read a translated version of your French forum post. I earned that MC14 is 1.4x teleconverter and the zoom lens should be used at more than 135mm focal length.
With this combination, the range of focal distances which gives me good results is from 135mm to 210mm.
So, this means that with an objective 10x calculated for a 200mm tube lens, you can go from 6.8x to 10.5x.
Thank you for your kind comments about my photographies ;-)
Last edited by jojm on Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I can not answer your questions, but probably you can ask Mark Berkery at https://beingmark.com/macro-illustrated/ . My understanding is that he uses a M43 camera coupled with a 60 mm Olympus macro and Raynox lenses, as you can see in his blog, he does get spectacular results.