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Adalbert
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Post by Adalbert »

Hi everyone,
Enclosed some photographs of the small moth:
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CANON EOS M3 + CANON EF 100L macro + NIKON LU Plan 5x / 0.15

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CANON EOS M3 + CANON EF 70-200L + NIKON LU Plan 10x / 0.30

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CANON EOS M3 + CANON EF 100L macro + OLYMPUS MSPlan 50x / 0.55

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CANON EOS M3 + CANON EF 70-200L + OLYMPUS MSPlan 50x / 0.55

BR, ADi

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Very nice pictures.
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Post by Harald »

Hi there Adalbert,
The first one of the moth is just great. Love the details and light.

Thanks for sharing
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Post by Olympusman »

Astounding- maybe a little more brightness and contrast.

Mike

I meant on the first image.

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The images are very nice!

Please be aware that these are way larger than our recommended limit of 1024 pixels.

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Post by Adalbert »

Hi guys,
Many thanks for your comments!
@Rik: I have just moved from the photobucket to the flickr and haven’t learnt its features up to now :-)
BR, ADi

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Wow, fantastic compositions and light and detail!

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Very nice!
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Post by Lou Jost »

Rik, the loose scale on the last photo answers our old question about whether the light lines are ridges or valleys.

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Lou Jost wrote:Rik, the loose scale on the last photo answers our old question about whether the light lines are ridges or valleys.
I disagree. I'm not completely sure even for the one scale shown here, and it's a very different scale from the other one that we tried to figure out.

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For the particular scale shown here, it seems unambiguous to me. Look at the left edge. The light parts are raised and the dark parts are very deeply sunk. I'm surprised by how deep the valleys are.

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Lou Jost wrote:For the particular scale shown here, it seems unambiguous to me. Look at the left edge. The light parts are raised and the dark parts are very deeply sunk.
Are you looking at the area where the edge of the isolated scale overlaps the almost black shadow behind it?

An alternative interpretation is that the dark parts are transparent and we're just seeing through them.

When I look to the right, where the basal section of the isolated scale overlaps the brown scale and the black shadow, it seems very much to me that the dark parts are transparent and the light parts are not.

If the scale were flipped over, do you think that the transparent parts would suddenly become white, and the white parts transparent? Or would the scale retain its appearance, despite having the ridges and valleys switch places?

I apologize for my skepticism, but I've been surprised too many times by shape-from-shading to trust that approach with subjects like these.

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Are you looking at the area where the edge of the isolated scale overlaps the almost black shadow behind it?

An alternative interpretation is that the dark parts are transparent and we're just seeing through them.
Yes, that's what I'm looking at. I don't think the dark parts can be so transparent as to be invisible; there would be reflections on them. If you look at the upper curving edge near the scale's former attachment point, you can see that the light ridges block out the dark parts as they curve around, reinforcing the conclusion that they are on top, and this is also what happened when the the 3-d model that sparked this discussion was turned on edge.

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