

Monocentropus balfouri, 1.5-inch sling, fangs by _papilio, on Flickr

Monocentropus balfouri, 1.5-inch slings, communal by _papilio, on Flickr
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This is interesting. I've not had much success shooting through thick media with NA 0.25 and above. That's consistent with theory that says spherical aberration should be a problem. But here it looks like you're shooting through maybe 5 mm of acrylic and the image looks good.papilio wrote:What else but the CFI60 10x/0.25?! That little golden barrel has hardly come off of my camera since I began using it!
Rik,rjlittlefield wrote:This is interesting. I've not had much success shooting through thick media with NA 0.25 and above. That's consistent with theory that says spherical aberration should be a problem. But here it looks like you're shooting through maybe 5 mm of acrylic and the image looks good.
Can you confirm the wall thickness? Did you have to do any unusual processing of the image, say to restore contrast?
--Rik
I was expecting spherical aberration, not longitudinal CA. Spherical aberration (SA) manifests as reduced contrast, particularly for moderately fine detail but not so much for the very finest detail. It causes a complicated and confusing situation where the MTF curve can drop clear to zero and even below at some frequencies, while remaining substantially unchanged near the unaberrated cutoff frequency. See http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/v ... 915#103915 for an example of the overall visual effect, in that case caused by using an NA 0.55 infinite objective as if it were finite.I certainly expected longitudinal CA as you did
Yes, that sounds right.papilio wrote:So anyway, you come up with 2 waves lambda of error on the emergent beam (from the acrylic), yes?
That would be interesting, but I don't have any tools handy to calculate it.Secondarily it would be interesting (for me) to learn what this material does to the strehl ratio.
Thanks for describing your process Rik, I appreciate it and your description is easy to follow.rjlittlefield wrote:In gory detail... I model the lens system as a flat array of phase shifts that produces 0 wavelengths difference in total optical path length from subject to sensor, all across the aperture, in the absence of the acrylic. Then I introduce the acrylic and adjust the subject-to-lens distance so as to precisely refocus the subject through the center of the aperture. Recalculating the total optical path lengths then shows a difference of 2 wavelengths between center and edge of the aperture.
I think that's equivalent to saying that the wavefront coming out of the acrylic deviates from spherical by two wavelengths across the aperture.
--Rik
Emphasis mine. This would imply that the approach which Rik used solved the focus of the paraxial ray, and that a tiny refocus solved so as to achieve the smallest RSM error across the wavefront should give a lower total P-V error. In other words, best focus is typically found to be a situation in which the edges of the aperture are level with the center (measured in this case at the lens' focus or at any point after the acrylic plate) when referenced against a perfect (spherical) wavefront.Recalculating the total optical path lengths then shows a difference of 2 wavelengths between center and edge of the aperture."
Assuming the reasoning in my own approach to be at least loosely valid, this to my mind solves the question as to why the images look somewhat better than what the focus solve arrived at by Rik's approach would indicate.Spherical aberration (SA) manifests as reduced contrast, particularly for moderately fine detail but not so much for the very finest detail.
Rik,Does your analysis indicate how much focus shift there is between the paraxial focus and the position of least RMS P-V?