On camera flash diffusers

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On camera flash diffusers

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I was thinking of getting something that's easier to use while outdoors that I can just whip out for a quick macro shot rather than fumbling with a cumbersome bracket and cable, and I saw these diffusers. They fasten with velcro. Normally they are used for portraits, the flash being bounced upwards and outwards, reducing red eye and harsh shadows, but I was thinking I could use one on my Canon flashgun while its in the hotshoe. With the flashgun in its normal flat position I imagine the diffuser would bounce the flash towards the subject.
Yay or nay?

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Re: On camera flash diffusers

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Cyclops wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:21 am
Yay or nay?
yes this will work but before you invest money try a translucent paper bag fixed with a rubber band to your flash. At the close macro range you have plenty of light from your flash, you must not take care about reflector efficiency.

https://digital-photography-school.com/ ... barf-bags/

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Re: On camera flash diffusers

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lothman wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:45 am
Cyclops wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:21 am
Yay or nay?
yes this will work but before you invest money try a translucent paper bag fixed with a rubber band to your flash. At the close macro range you have plenty of light from your flash, you must not take care about reflector efficiency.

https://digital-photography-school.com/ ... barf-bags/
A solution presents itself!
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Re: On camera flash diffusers

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Quick test

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I think a much better solution is to put a plastic diffuser (cut from a translucent gallon container of milk or alcohol or something) on the lens front ring, and aim the undiffused flash at this. This is generally better than a diffuser on the flash because it is closer to the subject and therefore covers a much wider angle of the sky from the subject's point of view.

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Lou Jost wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:47 pm
I think a much better solution is to put a plastic diffuser (cut from a translucent gallon container of milk or alcohol or something) on the lens front ring, and aim the undiffused flash at this. This is generally better than a diffuser on the flash because it is closer to the subject and therefore covers a much wider angle of the sky from the subject's point of view.
So like a ring of plastic affixed to the filter thread of the lens? Not sure how I would achieve that.
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Not a ring, since it doesn't need to go below the lens. Just a big flap on top and a little bit on the sides of the lens, slightly overhanging the subject. Just cut a hole in the plastic the same diameter as your lens and it will press right on and stay there if you do it right.

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Lou Jost wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:08 pm
Not a ring, since it doesn't need to go below the lens. Just a big flap on top and a little bit on the sides of the lens, slightly overhanging the subject. Just cut a hole in the plastic the same diameter as your lens and it will press right on and stay there if you do it right.
I still need to direct the flash downwards tho. At the moment it goes out and down. I have a C shaped flash bracket and a ball and socket head but its cumbersome and the b&s head moves where it screws into the bracket
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Maybe so. But it might be wide enough to illuminate the plastic. Might be worth a try.

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Lou Jost wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:17 pm
Maybe so. But it might be wide enough to illuminate the plastic. Might be worth a try.
Yea I'll look into it
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Lou Jost wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:47 pm
I think a much better solution is to put a plastic diffuser (cut from a translucent gallon container of milk or alcohol or something) on the lens front ring, and aim the undiffused flash at this. This is generally better than a diffuser on the flash because it is closer to the subject and therefore covers a much wider angle of the sky from the subject's point of view.
Not likely quite what you had in mind, but similar...
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Works nicely for moths in the dark when the purpose is not the absolute best in artistic style. The diffusor is cut from plastic plate. Dremeling the bajonet into it by hand is fun.

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Re: On camera flash diffusers

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Nice, especially the modeling lights. Mine is bigger (taller) and simpler, and just snaps on and off the lens front.

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That looks cool, but far too hands on for me...
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Years ago I made a simpler diffuser based in the same idea. I still use it for casual field shots.
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It does make me wonder why they make flashguns with the ability to tilt upwards, for bouncing off a ceiling or reflector, but I've never seen one that tilts downwards. That would seem a logical progression to me
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