Okay. Apparently the last edition I used of Photoshop was the same edition Noah used to design the Ark. What gives with all the different editions? There is Adobe Photoshop, Photoshop Elements, Photoshop Lightroom, Photoshop CS6, Photoshop CS6 Extended. What I would like to purchase is an edition similar to how the original Photoshop operated. Editing tools, masking, layers, etc. Can someone assist me with this? There's a noticeable price difference between CS6 and Extended. Is the only difference between the two 3D operations?
Thank you
Charlton
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Hi. I'd suggest using trial capabilities of these pieces of software to determine if you actually need the extended version. You will have plenty of time to play around with all the versions and you might find something that you missed a lot in your workflow. But I think (judging from your needs), the CS6 will be what you are looking for. It will take some time to get used to it. Elements has very few features (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop ... rison.html), Extended, indeed, brings in 3D. Lightroom is more useful as a tool to convert lots of RAWs and arrange pictures than as an editor.
Charlton, I’m no expert in all the editions, but here are partial answers that may clear at least some of the fog.
Photoshop CS6 and Photoshop CS6 Extended are the direct descendants of any full version of Photoshop you might have had in the past. They are very full featured and pretty expensive. In addition to the 3D operations, the extended version has the capacity to easily take measurements of the area of a subject. This is a very important feature for me, and is the only reason I use the extended version. There may be other additional features, but if so, I haven’t explored them. A colleague of mine long ago did a project that involved measuring the surface area of oak leaves. He traced them on paper, cut the tracings out of the paper, and weighed them. Since he had already measured the weight of the paper per unit of surface, he could calculate the area of the leaf. Ugh--hard to imagine doing this for thousands of individual leaves. If he were to do that project today, I’d suggest he scan them, and I’d make an action in Photoshop CS6 Extended that would select the area of the leaf, measure it, and record that measurement to a spreadsheet. This would be very easy to do. Probably not an important feature to somebody doing art, but for supporting science or industry, it can be a big time saver.
Photoshop Elements is a less full-featured pixel-editing program than Photoshop CS6. It’s much cheaper, and oriented toward amateurs. I have not used it.
Lightroom has gained a huge following, and I haven’t tried it since disliking a demo few versions ago. If I've got it right, it allows a photographer to ingest images, browse them, perform raw conversion, do lightweight photo editing, and manage images in a database. To me, it was a “Jack of all trades, master of none.” But many, many photographers swear by it.
Photoshop CS6, either the regular or extended edition, includes a browser and raw converter (which I mostly do not use, preferring other programs for these functions), of course includes very robust pixel editing. It does not have an image management database, bless it.
Cheers,
--Chris
Photoshop CS6 and Photoshop CS6 Extended are the direct descendants of any full version of Photoshop you might have had in the past. They are very full featured and pretty expensive. In addition to the 3D operations, the extended version has the capacity to easily take measurements of the area of a subject. This is a very important feature for me, and is the only reason I use the extended version. There may be other additional features, but if so, I haven’t explored them. A colleague of mine long ago did a project that involved measuring the surface area of oak leaves. He traced them on paper, cut the tracings out of the paper, and weighed them. Since he had already measured the weight of the paper per unit of surface, he could calculate the area of the leaf. Ugh--hard to imagine doing this for thousands of individual leaves. If he were to do that project today, I’d suggest he scan them, and I’d make an action in Photoshop CS6 Extended that would select the area of the leaf, measure it, and record that measurement to a spreadsheet. This would be very easy to do. Probably not an important feature to somebody doing art, but for supporting science or industry, it can be a big time saver.
Photoshop Elements is a less full-featured pixel-editing program than Photoshop CS6. It’s much cheaper, and oriented toward amateurs. I have not used it.
Lightroom has gained a huge following, and I haven’t tried it since disliking a demo few versions ago. If I've got it right, it allows a photographer to ingest images, browse them, perform raw conversion, do lightweight photo editing, and manage images in a database. To me, it was a “Jack of all trades, master of none.” But many, many photographers swear by it.
Photoshop CS6, either the regular or extended edition, includes a browser and raw converter (which I mostly do not use, preferring other programs for these functions), of course includes very robust pixel editing. It does not have an image management database, bless it.
Cheers,
--Chris
Charlton,
A couple of minor additions to Chris's succinct response:
Here's a link to Adobe's comparisons of its current Photoshop clan.
ImageJ is a free (and easy to use) image analysis program if you need that capability.
Regards,
David
Rereading the posts above, I see that Starshade already provided the Adobe link.
A couple of minor additions to Chris's succinct response:
Here's a link to Adobe's comparisons of its current Photoshop clan.
ImageJ is a free (and easy to use) image analysis program if you need that capability.
Regards,
David
Rereading the posts above, I see that Starshade already provided the Adobe link.
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Purchasing Photoshop can be rather expensive. The Adobe Creative Cloud monthly subscription deal is far superior....no more paying for upgrades in the future.
It is possible to subscribe to the full Creative Cloud Bundle which includes an ark load of Adobe software or just subscribe to Photoshop CS6.
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html
Craig
*edit: corrected hyperlink
It is possible to subscribe to the full Creative Cloud Bundle which includes an ark load of Adobe software or just subscribe to Photoshop CS6.
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html
Craig
*edit: corrected hyperlink
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Regarding the price of photoshop, look in your local electronics retailers at their Wacom tablets.
In the past, I have found that Wacom partnered with Adobe to offer 1/2 price of Photoshop with the purchase of one of their tablets. But that was in 2002, so I have no idea if they still do this. Even including the cost of said tablet, you end up saving money - and getting a useful tool for painting in masks and the like!
In the past, I have found that Wacom partnered with Adobe to offer 1/2 price of Photoshop with the purchase of one of their tablets. But that was in 2002, so I have no idea if they still do this. Even including the cost of said tablet, you end up saving money - and getting a useful tool for painting in masks and the like!
I purchased PS Elements about 2 months ago. I bought it online at Amazon for download (~$50 US) and was pleased with the pirce and ease of installation. In conjunction I took a class in PS Elements at the local community college and that was helpful.
I am very pleased so far. It has allowed me to properly set the "levels" and to remove background dust trails quickly. Plus I have made some very funny photos of giant flies sitting next to my wife at the park...
As this is a hobby (though a pasionate hobby) I could not justify the cost of high end PS products.
Keith
I am very pleased so far. It has allowed me to properly set the "levels" and to remove background dust trails quickly. Plus I have made some very funny photos of giant flies sitting next to my wife at the park...
As this is a hobby (though a pasionate hobby) I could not justify the cost of high end PS products.
Keith
you should try both.
I started with photoshop. It can do miracles, but because it has so many features, many of them not very relevant to photography, it can be hard to learn.
A few years ago I bought Lightroom. since then I rarely need to go to photoshop.
IMHO, the big differences between PS and LR are:
- PS is pixel oriented
- LR is photo oriented.
- LR has totally non-destructive editing. That means you can do anything LR allows to an image and still be able to get back to the starting point. No need to save backup files. (it saves changes in a sidecar file while leaving the original alone
- LR has great tagging features that allow you to quickly catalog your images to whatever detail level you want.
- PS offers layers which increase editing power, but at the cost of simplicity
- LR is much cheaper.
Perhaps the most important considerations though, are what you plan to do. LR is a photo tool. PS is a graphics tool. They complement each other rather than compete with each other. that's why many of us have both.
One final note: Here in the states most people with an academic or educational connection can get very inexpensive academic editions of Adobe products. for instance, when I was a higher ed instructor a few years ago, I first bought Photoshop extended for $200. Eligibility is not restricted to students. It often includes teachers and administrators. Go online to check.
I started with photoshop. It can do miracles, but because it has so many features, many of them not very relevant to photography, it can be hard to learn.
A few years ago I bought Lightroom. since then I rarely need to go to photoshop.
IMHO, the big differences between PS and LR are:
- PS is pixel oriented
- LR is photo oriented.
- LR has totally non-destructive editing. That means you can do anything LR allows to an image and still be able to get back to the starting point. No need to save backup files. (it saves changes in a sidecar file while leaving the original alone
- LR has great tagging features that allow you to quickly catalog your images to whatever detail level you want.
- PS offers layers which increase editing power, but at the cost of simplicity
- LR is much cheaper.
Perhaps the most important considerations though, are what you plan to do. LR is a photo tool. PS is a graphics tool. They complement each other rather than compete with each other. that's why many of us have both.
One final note: Here in the states most people with an academic or educational connection can get very inexpensive academic editions of Adobe products. for instance, when I was a higher ed instructor a few years ago, I first bought Photoshop extended for $200. Eligibility is not restricted to students. It often includes teachers and administrators. Go online to check.
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Technically speaking, downloading that and installing it is only legitimate if you've already purchased CS2, as explained by your first link (and the links within it).
So really, you'd be breaking exactly the same laws by getting a pirated copy!
So really, you'd be breaking exactly the same laws by getting a pirated copy!
arby wrote:You can get Photoshop CS2 for free FROM ADOBE whilst it doesn't have the bells and whistles of the later versions for a lot of people it will be all they need.
http://painting.about.com/b/2013/01/10/ ... really.htm
The link includes the serials for each package.
This is a genuine (not widely advertised) offer from Adobe
http://www.adobe.com/downloads/cs2_downloads/index.html
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Arby,
No need to apologize; it seems that lots of very high profile blogs thought exactly the same as you. Indeed, Adobe has done a rather poor job of explaining the terms/conditions of the download on that download page.
I don't think it's necessary to remove your content as long as you correct the explanation, although in that case it's no longer very relevant to this discussion.
It's a strange grey area - it's a direct link to Adobe, offering one of their products seeming for "free" with no clear explanations. If you were linking to a torrent, that might be different... but who knows, maybe there's someone out there who lost their CS2 disc but still has the receipt/box, in which case this would be quite useful still.
No need to apologize; it seems that lots of very high profile blogs thought exactly the same as you. Indeed, Adobe has done a rather poor job of explaining the terms/conditions of the download on that download page.
I don't think it's necessary to remove your content as long as you correct the explanation, although in that case it's no longer very relevant to this discussion.
It's a strange grey area - it's a direct link to Adobe, offering one of their products seeming for "free" with no clear explanations. If you were linking to a torrent, that might be different... but who knows, maybe there's someone out there who lost their CS2 disc but still has the receipt/box, in which case this would be quite useful still.
Adoobe lets you download its programs to try them out but if you don't activate within a certain number of days, it won't run. T
see http://www.adobe.com/uk/special/product ... index.html
see http://www.adobe.com/uk/special/product ... index.html