Leitz Macro-Elmarit 60mm f2.8 (Was Carl-Zeiss-Makro-Planar)

Harold Gough · Post by **Harold Gough** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:37 am

Harold Gough wrote:In general, I don't know whether the adapter might cut off some of the image circle.

As may be happening here:

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/ ... to=newpost

Harold

naturephoto1 · Post by **naturephoto1** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:04 am

Harold Gough wrote:
Harold Gough wrote:In general, I don't know whether the adapter might cut off some of the image circle.
As may be happening here:

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/ ... to=newpost

Harold

Hi Harold,

As was mentioned in the posted thread and has been mentioned in this forum, the image circle of a lens gets larger the closer you get to the subject and smaller the more you move toward infinity.

Rich

Harold Gough · Post by **Harold Gough** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:30 am

naturephoto1 wrote:As was mentioned in the posted thread and has been mentioned in this forum, the image circle of a lens gets larger the closer you get to the subject and smaller the more you move toward

That one seems to have slipped past me unnoticed. Anyway, it is of potential (possibly limited) use where the circle from the OM 24mm shift is generally considered to not quite cover the X-Pan panoramic format.

Harold

naturephoto1 · Post by **naturephoto1** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:53 am

Harold Gough wrote:
naturephoto1 wrote:As was mentioned in the posted thread and has been mentioned in this forum, the image circle of a lens gets larger the closer you get to the subject and smaller the more you move toward
That one seems to have slipped past me unnoticed. Anyway, it is of potential (possibly limited) use where the circle from the OM 24mm shift is generally considered to not quite cover the X-Pan panoramic format.

Harold

Harold,

It is interesting and at least confirms what I had suggested regarding the image circles (of at least many) Leica lenses that in the thread that it was mentioned that the image circle was approximately 52mm for the 50mm Summicron lens. That is substantially larger than is required for 35mm film or FF digital coverage. That means that the lens provides 17mm of additional coverage or the ability to provide 8 1/2mm of shift in either direction on the horizontal axis (35mm axis) and still provide coverage for full frame. It was not mentioned in the thread as to the aperture used to determine the image circle, but that also increases as the aperture size gets smaller (until diffraction becomes an issue that can be used).

Rich

Harold Gough · Post by **Harold Gough** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:08 am

Thanks, Rich.

I had been wondering if there was any point in buying one of these, having recently invested in an OM version.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200691097160? ... 1423.l2649

Hmmm! If in doubt....

Harold

naturephoto1 · Post by **naturephoto1** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:40 am

Harold Gough wrote:Thanks, Rich.

I had been wondering if there was any point in buying one of these, having recently invested in an OM version.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200691097160? ... 1423.l2649

Hmmm! If in doubt....

Harold

Hi Harold,

I quite possibly mistakenly purchased this for my Leica R lenses on the M 4/3 camera hoping that it would be of better quality:

http://www.adrianololli.com/articolo.asp?ID=3107

I ordered it before Christmas and they were slow at getting it out; they charged me VAT on the item and shipping to send to the US; and finally there was a nice scratch on what was supposed to be brand new.

It is an interesting piece of equipment and I will have to play with it more. I am not sure if I will have much success trying to use it the way that I would normally use tilts (and to a lesser degree swings) as I would for my Large format camera or even my Spiratone Bellows Master SST for close-up work.

I also purchased this and I believe that this will ultimately be more useful and valuable to me:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003DR ... 00_details

I am sure that you could get something like this for your OM lenses.

I like the unit that I received. I know that some on-line complained about these and their tripod thread; I did not notice on mine and may well not mount the adapter with/without a QR plate to the Arca Type QR clamp. Also, I know that some found that the Nikon mount did not allow infinity focus, but I found no problem with my Leica mount (in fact when using the increased focus magnification on my Lumix G1 for focus as I recall I could not find anything at a reasonable distance that reached infinity for many lenses). Mine seems to be quite sturdy and operates smoothly with my Leica lenses. For larger lenses with their own tripod collar the camera would shift instead of the lens. But, you could use this type of an adapter to make 3 side to side images and stitch them together. Or, particularly if used in the portrait mode and used with a nodal slide or a rail, you could run 3 sets of 3 images (a total of 9) and stitch them together. The adapter that I have offers I believe 10mm of shift in either direction.

You may wish to look at this link:

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutori ... enses1.htm

Rich

Harold Gough · Post by **Harold Gough** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:57 am

Rich,

I have this one, so far unused.

Ebay item 360391901801

Tilt is going to play a minor part in my photography compared to shift, which is not used regularly any way. However, it might be used for close-ups before for general photography but that is just a guess.

Thanks for the link to the technique. It is some time since I read up on it.

Harold

Harold Gough · Post by **Harold Gough** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:42 am

On 14 March I added an image shot with the camera on a tripod (and a crop) here :

http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/v ... 490#103490

Harold

Harold Gough · Post by **Harold Gough** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:24 am

Harold Gough wrote:This current exercise was specifically because it is widely reported that later versions of my Tamron 90mm f2.5 give better resolution/contrast. The MF version (Model 72B) of the 2.8 is almost unobtainable and my attempts to obtain one were frustrated. The AF version is much more expensive and I want MF anyway. So, I started to look for alternatives, the crop factor meaning that I could use a shorter focal length than I would have needed for my film cameras.

Having satified myself as to the macro and close-up performance of the Elamarit, this morning I confirmed it is good for larger game, literally:

An adult male Muntjac deer, Reeves's Muntjac or Chinese Muntjac, Muntiacus reevesi, an introduced species naturalised in England:

The images are uncropped, shot at f8 ISO400.

There is an OOF twig in front of its right ear which is beyond my current PS skill to remove.

So the lens on m4/3 will do much what the Tamron 90mm will on film.

This is the closest I have ever been to this frequent visitor to our garden. It normally runs away at full gallop. This has recently become a daytime resting place, behind a greenhouse, with a hedge and a compost bin (which I lent on) on two other side, escape route behind its head. I spoke to it in what I hoped was a calming voice as I framed my shots.

The annoying thing is that my wife got similar shots before telling me where the deer was!

Harold

naturephoto1 · Post by **naturephoto1** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:06 am

Hi Harold,

Very very fine shots. I hope that you continue to enjoy the lens.

Also, as I had mentioned, I was expecting the Leica 100mm f2.8 Apo-Macro-Elmarit to arrive from the UK. It did yesterday. The lens is in almost the condition that it was rated. It is in really fine condition. It does not focus quite as smoothly as my Leica 60mm f2.8 Macro Elmarit. But, it was found that the aperture ring with all of the aperture numbers was on the underside of the lens and would not align with the dot for the working apertures on the top of the lens. I had to run the lens over to Leica USA yesterday (225 miles round trip plus 4+ hours). I was fortunate that I know them as well as I do, they have used my work, and my friend is the assistant for Professional services. It was determined that the lens mount had been changed and replaced. When the Leica mount was returned the rear shrouds were installed improperly so that the aperture ring with the aperture numbers was installed onto the underside of the lens. The technician made the correction and I was on my way. But we will see what the ebay seller will do. I will report in on this lens with time.

Rich

Harold Gough · Post by **Harold Gough** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:33 am

Thanks, Rich,

225 miles! You are certainly an enthusiast! And you have some great contacts!

I am sure that I will not be alone in looking forward to seeing some images from your latest lens.

There is still not a great deal of macro subject matter here but I recognise those available as being the same as when my E-P2 first saw some action a year ago. Anyway, spring is certainly set in. Hopefully, the frost predicted for Monday morning will be the last for many months.

Harold

naturephoto1 · Post by **naturephoto1** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:58 am

Harold Gough wrote:Thanks, Rich,

225 miles! You are certainly an enthusiast! And you have some great contacts!

I am sure that I will not be alone in looking forward to seeing some images from your latest lens.

There is still not a great deal of macro subject matter here but I recognise those available as being the same as when my E-P2 first saw some action a year ago. Anyway, spring is certainly set in. Hopefully, the frost predicted for Monday morning will be the last for many months.

Harold

Hi Harold,

Yes I am fortunate to have some of the right contacts, but Leica is much smaller and easier to deal with than someone like Canon.

I wanted to make sure that the lens was in fine working condition to make sure that I was correct and that I did not have to return the lens. This would have made 2 purchases in a row that had completely gone awry. As it was, just previous to that I had an Olympus BHMJ Focus Block come in that was not to my liking and I sent it back to Hong Kong. But, we lost track of the item and ran a trace. Instead of going back to Hong Kong the Focus Block had been sitting in Mexico for 12 days (I have no idea why it had gone to Mexico

) . Hopefully it will finally be returned.

So, you can see this had become a bit of an issue along with the time frame that I would have had to return the lens and to have taken still another hit on the shipping charges, etc. Hopefully, the seller will return some money for the inconvenience. The repair could have been rather costly and I was fortunate. I had contacted the seller regarding the problem and he wrote back OMG it had worked fine on my 5D MKII and there was no problem. How much money is it going to cost for repair? So, he at least admitted that something had been done to the lens. As mentioned the technician indicated that the screws and mount had been removed and when the mount had been replaced, the shrouds were not replaced properly resulting in the problem. Anyway, I hope that the seller will do something as a result.

As to some photos, next week I anticipate getting both a UV filter for the lens (MC and better than the others I have for my other Leica lenses in this size because of its lens performance) and I also plan to get the Elpro 1:2-1:1 adapter for the lens (another expense

).

I am working on trying to get my income taxes in order so that I can pass them along to my accountant for my filing by the beginning to the middle of next week, but I will try to squeeze in some photos.

Rich

Harold Gough · Post by **Harold Gough** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:48 am

I tried it in my conservatory +/- extender* & +/- tripod:

http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/v ... hp?t=16386

* [Edit: Typo. It was the dedicated 1:1 "extension tube"].

Harold

naturephoto1 · Post by **naturephoto1** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:52 am

Harold Gough wrote:I tried it in my conservatory +/- extender & +/- tripod:

http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/v ... hp?t=16386

Harold

Hi Harold,

By extender you mean 1:1 adapter and not a 1.4X or 2X extender I believe.

The results look quite good.

Rich

Harold Gough · Post by **Harold Gough** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:03 am

Thanks, Rich.

To me, extenders are tubes filled with air but I am aware that sometimes they are what I will call teleconverters.

Yes, it was the dedicated 1:1 "extension tube", as the literature about it in the box calls it.

I will edit my post.

Harold