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Chilodonella with and without "tail" video add

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In this video we see several Chilodonella genre ciliates
Curiously some specimens have developed a "tail"
and others not.
We appreciate any information about this change.
Slow motion.
Phase contrast.
40X objective
Panasonic GH4 camera
Video link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtynKLQ3YKQ
Video frame preview:
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Super !

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Thanks Jacek!
I hope Bruce can we explain. I think they are "defensive" changes

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Very nice. What framerate (fps) was the original recording and at what framerate do we see the slow motion?

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Thanks Ralf.
The camera films at 96fps and recorded on the card at 24fps, obtaining a speed four times slower.
But I have had many problems editing these files in the Videostudio, this software has many bugs, so sometimes it's better for me filming at 60p and then slow down in postproduction, thereby also it gains in quality because filming has a higher biterate.

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Thank you Carlos for that information.

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Hi Carlos. Gorgeous! The phase contrast really shows the ventral cilia. In this video, the two "spineless" specimens are a bit smaller than the others. It is hard to be sure, without spending a bit of time with the population in culture, but this could be simply a developmental difference. The ones without tails might be proters from a recent division.

The "tails" of chilodonellids are usually regarded as normal species-defining characters. A while ago, you showed me an interesting chilodonellid with a large secondary spine on its dorsal surface, and I speculated that it might be a defensive adaption, like the dorsal spine of "Aspidisca turrita" (a defensive form of A. lynceus). To my knowledge, defensive phenotypic changes (common in euplotids) have not been recorded in chilodonellids, so it would be something new and interesting. However, these posterior tails are found in ordinary populations of several species of Chilodenella and Pseudochilodonopsis. I suspect that their purpose (if they have a purpose...not all structures do!) is more likely to be thigmotactic (i.e. allowing the organism to orient itself by "touch") than defensive.
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Bruce Taylor wrote:Hi Carlos. Gorgeous! The phase contrast really shows the ventral cilia. In this video, the two "spineless" specimens are a bit smaller than the others. It is hard to be sure, without spending a bit of time with the population in culture, but this could be simply a developmental difference. The ones without tails might be proters from a recent division.

The "tails" of chilodonellids are usually regarded as normal species-defining characters. A while ago, you showed me an interesting chilodonellid with a large secondary spine on its dorsal surface, and I speculated that it might be a defensive adaption, like the dorsal spine of "Aspidisca turrita" (a defensive form of A. lynceus). To my knowledge, defensive phenotypic changes (common in euplotids) have not been recorded in chilodonellids, so it would be something new and interesting. However, these posterior tails are found in ordinary populations of several species of Chilodenella and Pseudochilodonopsis. I suspect that their purpose (if they have a purpose...not all structures do!) is more likely to be thigmotactic (i.e. allowing the organism to orient itself by "touch") than defensive.
Hi Bruce and thanks.
The long dorsal spine chilondonelas, I think it disappeared. It can only look the spine when they are sidewise.
Now there are many with and without tail, with no tail are of all sizes, (I attach frames).Next week I will film more specimens and will send to you the videos.
(I have had many problems editing these videos)
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Well, small specimens with tails could be the opisthe (rear half) of a recent division. In any case, I suspect that we're looking at normal variation within this population, rather than a predator-induced defense (unless you start seeing lots of those guys with the big dorsal spines! :D)

If you want to pursue it further, you could start by gathering morphometric data, to determine the normal size range and the prevalence of "tails." If you can keep the population alive, you could try maintaining one culture in company with predator species, and a second culture without predators.
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Bruce Taylor wrote:Well, small specimens with tails could be the opisthe (rear half) of a recent division. In any case, I suspect that we're looking at normal variation within this population, rather than a predator-induced defense (unless you start seeing lots of those guys with the big dorsal spines! :D)

If you want to pursue it further, you could start by gathering morphometric data, to determine the normal size range and the prevalence of "tails." If you can keep the population alive, you could try maintaining one culture in company with predator species, and a second culture without predators.
Hi Bruce.
In this new video we observe that the "tail" side view is a "hump"
So I guess all we saw in the previous video with "tail" in reality if we saw them side they would have a "hump"
Video link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGZk_8Pu6FA
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Post by carlos.uruguay »

Bruce has made me realize that the "tail" and the spine are two different structures. Not the same seen from different perspective.
Thanks bruce!

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