Sony a77 to Amscope T340B-DK-LED

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Sony a77 to Amscope T340B-DK-LED

Post by mikeatnip »

Hi, newbie to microscopy here.
I just bought an Amscope T340B-DK-LED. Would like to set my Sony a77 on the top (23mm eyepieces according to specs). Is this what I need to make the connection? Is there another setup that would be better?
Thanks!
Edit--missed the link. :(
https://www.amazon.com/CAMERA-ADAPTER-C ... pe+adapter

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Post by Harald »

Hi there mikeatnip,
I have an older Amscope, but the adapter you link to here.
Works like a charm...
Kind Regards
Harald

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Post by mikeatnip »

Harald wrote:Hi there mikeatnip,
I have an older Amscope, but the adapter you link to here.
Works like a charm...
Thanks for the comment.
I also found this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-A-2-Micros ... Sw1XdUVoho
It lists a .5 lens. So can you tell me which I should be using? Or, maybe a better question is, what will the difference be between a .5 lens and 1X or 2X?
Thanks!

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I would go for the Amazon one, or you could go for this I found on eBay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SONY-DSLR-SLR ... 3KbobJssTw

This is the same as I have.
I think this will give you a magnification of about 15x.
So if you have an 5x objective you will get 5 x 15 = 75x total magnification..

Somebody correct me if I´m wrong....
Kind Regards
Harald

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Post by Pau »

The standard relay magnification for FF is 2.5 and for APSC 1.6X

A 2x adapter could work for both formats, a bit cropped for APSC and maybe with some vignette for FF

Absolutely avoid 0.5X and similar, they are for small sensor cameras

Returning to the first model linked it seems the only that could reasonably work. I've seen pretty bad results with it, http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/v ... 518#140518
but Harald post says just the opposite.

A more cumbersome but always working method is afocal, take a look:
http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/v ... 9265#99265
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Post by mikeatnip »

Thanks, Pau. I made a quick setup like this (sorry, it's not a good really good photo, was in a hurry):
Image
Then I took one shot of some cicada eggs. Obviously these would need some stacking to get them in focus all the way. No problem on that part.
Image
What I ran into was that I cannot get the eggs, which are completely in the frame with room to spare through the eyepieces, to fit into the frame of the camera. I am using a 4X objective, and put a 10X into the trinocular port (all I have is 10X and 20X).
So do I need to come up with a 5X or something smaller in the trinocular port to be able to cover the whole area that I see through the eyepieces? (Sorry, newbie here, don't know official names to all the parts of a scope yet. :) )
Thanks!

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By the way, I am using a 50mm macro on the camera, focused to infinity. Would a wider angle lens be the answer?

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Post by Pau »

The formula to calculate the total relay magnification with the afocal method is:

(eyepiece magnification) X (camera lens focal lenght) / 250

If you use a 10X eyepiece with a 50mm lens you get

10x50/250 = 2X, working but a bit too cropped for APSC

To get 1.6X a good fit would be with a 8X adequate eyepiece (not easy to find) or with a 40mm camera lens. A 40mm pancake will be ideal, but a short zoom 18-55 at 40 can work well enough, superzooms are not adequate

Because the microscope image field is round you always will need to crop or you will have corner vignette, to capture the whole image with small relay magnification it will be a circle inside the rectangular frame

At www.krebsmicro.com you have links to excellent articles on the subject, although more oriented to other methods afocal is also covered
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Post by mikeatnip »

Thanks, Pau. The link to Kreb's site looks like a treasure field of knowledge.
I played with my setup a few more hours using a couple of lenses. The big issue now is simply sharpness without CA. I suppose a $200 microscope is probably my biggest limitation.

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