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Saul



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:27 pm    Post subject: Del-Tron LRS3-1 horizontal field/studio setup Reply with quote

As I mentioned in the one of the previous posts, I was looking for something to replace my horizontal setup which could be used in the field and studio and could be used in the manual and auto modes.
http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30925&highlight=deltron

Finally my purchase has arrived... Assembly took few minutes, except 1/4 hole for the tripod at the bottom - had to spend some time to assemble back linear bearings.







Movement is ~2.0 - 2.5mm per turn, what is OK for my horizontal lower magnification shots. For the high magnification I'm using vertical setup
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As usual elegantly done. Very Happy
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Saul



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Gene !
Now another goal - to find time to test it Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saul,

Very nice work, really like the Knob on the end of the stepper!!

Mike
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Saul



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mawyatt wrote:

Very nice work, really like the Knob on the end of the stepper!!
Mike


Thanks Mike !
All credits are for Arda Kutlu , from my side just some 3D modeling and assembly Smile
Oh yes, the Knob Smile It was for the different purpose (encoder), but my PLC was to weak for that...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most recent field auto/manual setup with Deltron stage and WeMacro control unit






WeMacro and battery pack case 3D view:
https://www.3dvieweronline.com/members/Id1baff70e2669e8376347efd3a874a341/zIW3lq9zFPVStv0

WeMacro and battery pack case STL file:
https://www.multcloud.com/share/e1907aed-1415-4cba-9442-7247865bbb63
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really nice setup, salut
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saul,

I like your design and its flexible features very much. If I could have a macro rig, I would like one exactly like yours (I too want field/studio + manual/auto).

How much does your rig cost, approximately, without considering the tripod cost?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saul,

Very nice work!! See you've got that 3D printer working nicely, and William's WeMacro controller and battery pack. The 18650 LiIon cells should last a long time. Great setup!!

Best,

Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Saul;

How did you control a different stepper motor with wemcaro controller?
Wemacro rail has a lead screw which has 1mm pitch and 1mm lead, this means the block will move 1mm for every 1 full rev.
You said that your new linear rail moves ~2.0 - 2.5mm per rev.
Because of that the calculations on the wemacro controller program will Show wrong lengths is it correct?
You can only use step numbers but calculate the legths yourself.
Could you explain a bit?
I have a Project to use the wemacro controller on a different rail system so I need your advices on this mater.
Thanks.
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Saul



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johan wrote:
Really nice setup, salut

Thanks, Johan, I'm getting lot of inspiration on this forum Smile

zzffnn wrote:
...How much does your rig cost, approximately, without considering the tripod cost?

Fan, everything depends how much luck you have on eBay Smile
Without tripod, around US400-450$

mawyatt wrote:
Very nice work!! See you've got that 3D printer working nicely, and William's WeMacro controller and battery pack. The 18650 LiIon cells should last a long time. Great setup!!
...


Thanks Mike ! Printer is not my, I'm bugging my colleague Smile
Never tried yet 18650 for how much time it will last

lonepal wrote:
...Because of that the calculations on the wemacro controller program will Show wrong lengths is it correct?
You can only use step numbers but calculate the legths yourself.
...


Thanks Lonepal ! You are right - I made few tests for my both studio & field setups & created kind a "cheat-sheet" for my setups



WeMacro 10um app step on my vertical setup with Labophot base and 400 pulse stepper equals 0.5um
Example - for my vertical setup with Labophot base with Mitu 10x I have to set 50um step on the app. For 50x - step will be 10-15 on the app.
On the horizontal with Deltron/Nikkor 55mm/32mm extension tube- 250-300 steps (depending on the situation)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Saul;

Thanks for the information.
I wonder what type of motors wemacro controller can drive.
For example can it drive below motor?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/371925150429

Is there an amperage limit like max 2A?

What type of 400 stepper you use on your vertical setup? A nema 17 400 2.4A?

Sorry for asking too much but I need your experience on this matter.
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lonepal wrote:
...I wonder what type of motors wemacro controller can drive. ...


No idea. It is better to contact William from WeMacro directly.

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...What type of 400 stepper you use on your vertical setup? A nema 17 400 2.4A?...


Sorry, again no idea - it was ebay purchase long time ago, no label on the motor. Now I would buy:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P0WU526/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
because of the double shaft
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, couple Del-Tron stage listings on ebay, very good price, with "make offer" option, same seller where I bought my unit
182542317188
172640921840

UPDATE: good price is gone, seller increased price from 37 to 82
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Saul;
Thanks for the information.
If I can use same controller for both 200 step and 400 step motors as tou do, no problem.
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