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just got a mpe 65 still have 200. what should i buy

 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:51 pm    Post subject: just got a mpe 65 still have 200. what should i buy Reply with quote

hi i have a rebel t5i and mpe 65 .
sould i but a flash ? wich?

sould i but a trepied ? a macro rail?

i have 200dollar

wich will be usefull for me
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That depends...
Perhaps:

Manfrotto 454 rail
Yongnuo flash
Flash bracket
Something to put the camera on, such as a small metal table-top tripod
Home made diffusers (paper)
Chinese remote release - IR or wired.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HI

do you think that this aliminium can made diffuser would fit on the flash you suggest ? https://www.flickr.com/groups/macroviewers/discuss/72157594312315664/

im afraid the flash will not be strong enough....

is a flash bracket to move the flash around? is you have any suggestion cheap go ahead

is manfronto the cheapest rail available?

what is priority rail or flash or tripod?

every opinon is welcomed
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do you think that this aliminium can made diffuser would fit on the flash you suggest ? https://www.flickr.com/groups/macroviewers/discuss/72157594312315664/
Sure. There are lots of home made diffusers. You just need a big white sky for the subject.

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im afraid the flash will not be strong enough....
You're so close they don't need to be powerful, but more is good. You DO need manual control.

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is a flash bracket to move the flash around? is you have any suggestion cheap go ahead
Doesn't need to be elaborate. "On-Camera" isn't the right place forthe flash. You'll need a cord too.
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is manfronto the cheapest rail available?
Pretty much. There's a Velbon Mag slider, better for lower magnifications

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what is priority rail or flash or tripod?
I'd say flash.
Rail isn't much use without a support. Look at a Manfrotto Super Clamp.
Then turn a small table over and clamp to the frame/legs.

All depends on your subject size..
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi very interesting

what do you mean byt you jste need a big whit sky?
Im planning to photograph insects at magnification 4x and 5 x with mp5 65. I dont plan to photographe birds or clouds .

what do you mean by lower magnification

Manfrotto Super Clamp is 30 dollar does it need a universal ball to ajust the angle?

Also a gorrila pod is about 30 dollars why shoud i buy a clamp instead of a tripod?


All depends on your subject size.. insects 's face and mouth

thx
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what do you mean byt you jste need a big whit sky?
If it looked up, the insect needs to "see" a big angle of white. Then the light will be diffused.


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what do you mean by lower magnification
Less than the Manfrotto. The 454 isn't perfect but it'll do. Anything else costs a lot more. Velbon is OK for 1-2-3x, struggles at 5x.

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Manfrotto Super Clamp is 30 dollar does it need a universal ball to ajust the angle?
May be. "look at.." Wink
You won't get much of a tripod for $30.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel gratefull for your advices. im new in macro.
I feel like you used mpe65 before.. is that exact?

I will do photo inside and also outside fifty fifty.

if i understand i must chose between manfrotto 454 with a tripod
or manfrontto454 with a clamp and inverted clamp...

I kind of lost. i dont know how much is a good tripod.


i feel like a tripod would be more flexible wouldnt it? do you think i should buy a regular size tripod or onefeetgorilla type?
what kind of tripod would be ok to begin with?
does it need a universal ball head ?
what else are imortant features?

Do you think i could use a tripod both outside and on a table. I heard a monopode is good too
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MPE65, yes, it's remarkable - on my aps Canon.
I have a Nikon D700 which can't use it Sad

"Outside" things are often moving so you'll need single shots, whether flash or available light, with a support. A clamp wouldn't be very useful, unless you carry something to clamp it on to. A small wooden stool would probably work!

"Inside" your options are wider, but a regular tripod can be too big.

I have a type of "Gorilla" pod, but I wouldn't put a DSLR on it for very much. May be OK near the ground on a hard surface.

The best tripods cost as much as a used car. ...
I have a Manfrotto 709B Digi, tiny tripod (ebay, $25 used) which is small but usable indoors, and strong.

It sounds as though you want a kit for "everything".Confused
I'd suggest you start with a flash, some handheld careful stacks, and see where you want to push further.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree that flash is priority.
wich on would you suggest precisely?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a mixture, anything with manual control. Yongnuo seem to be popular.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im french originally, when you say i use a mixture, do you mean you use diverse weird sources of light?

sometimes i see master and or slave ,

could you explain me a bit about what i need to know about this?
i have rebel t5i camera by the way

thx
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