Struggled with this for a few days, finally used parts that I had available. I'm certain there are better ways of doing this - let's see some
Mounting El-Nikkor Enlarger Lenses to Nikon bellows
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Mounting El-Nikkor Enlarger Lenses to Nikon bellows
1] El-Nikkor Enlarger lens to Nikon bellows
Struggled with this for a few days, finally used parts that I had available. I'm certain there are better ways of doing this - let's see some
Struggled with this for a few days, finally used parts that I had available. I'm certain there are better ways of doing this - let's see some
Last edited by NikonUser on Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
NU.
student of entomology
Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.
Nikon camera, lenses and objectives
Olympus microscope and objectives
student of entomology
Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.
Nikon camera, lenses and objectives
Olympus microscope and objectives
A far more elegant solution.
I paid Can$20.00 locally for the T-mount adapter
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Details? M39 - F mount and various iterations turned up nothing useful on EBay
I paid Can$20.00 locally for the T-mount adapter
.Details? M39 - F mount and various iterations turned up nothing useful on EBay
NU.
student of entomology
Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.
Nikon camera, lenses and objectives
Olympus microscope and objectives
student of entomology
Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.
Nikon camera, lenses and objectives
Olympus microscope and objectives
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Charles Krebs
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Remember that even though these are enlarging lenses, is is advisable to mount them in reverse when using them above 1:1.
There are many Nikon reverse adapters out there (F-mount on one side, 52mm threaded on other side). Many enlarging lenses have a 40.5mm filter thread. My preference is to use a 40.5-52mm stepping ring (see eBay #110300237550) together with the above mentioned Nikon reversing ring. This makes a very nice arrangement. (If you are really lucky you might find a Nikon made "F-Mount EL-Nikkor Reverse Adapter")
The T-mount thread is M42x0.75. The "Pentax thread" that was once a common mount is the same diameter but a different pitch... M42x1.0
You can always find a good use for a T-mount. While not that common, it's not too hard to locate T-mount "reverse adapters" that have a male T thread on one side and a male "filter thread" (52mm, 49mm, 55mm...) on the other. See eBay item # 310083275474 (although seller does not state thread size) and item #91125 on this page: http://www.pacificrimcamera.com/catalog/cd31.htm
If you get hooked on this type of photography (and I think you have
) you will likely try a microscope objective at some time, and you can get T-mount to RMS adapters that will solve the mounting problem with most objectives. (Edmunds Optical item # NT52-301)
So I'm pretty confident you will always find a good use for your Nikon T-mount adapter.
Other links of some interest:
http://www.srb-griturn.com/t-mount-inserts-374-c.asp
http://www.destoutz.ch/accessories_close-up.html
http://www.sciencecenter.net/hutech/bor ... /index.htm
There are many Nikon reverse adapters out there (F-mount on one side, 52mm threaded on other side). Many enlarging lenses have a 40.5mm filter thread. My preference is to use a 40.5-52mm stepping ring (see eBay #110300237550) together with the above mentioned Nikon reversing ring. This makes a very nice arrangement. (If you are really lucky you might find a Nikon made "F-Mount EL-Nikkor Reverse Adapter")
The T-mount thread is M42x0.75. The "Pentax thread" that was once a common mount is the same diameter but a different pitch... M42x1.0
You can always find a good use for a T-mount. While not that common, it's not too hard to locate T-mount "reverse adapters" that have a male T thread on one side and a male "filter thread" (52mm, 49mm, 55mm...) on the other. See eBay item # 310083275474 (although seller does not state thread size) and item #91125 on this page: http://www.pacificrimcamera.com/catalog/cd31.htm
If you get hooked on this type of photography (and I think you have
) you will likely try a microscope objective at some time, and you can get T-mount to RMS adapters that will solve the mounting problem with most objectives. (Edmunds Optical item # NT52-301)So I'm pretty confident you will always find a good use for your Nikon T-mount adapter.
Other links of some interest:
http://www.srb-griturn.com/t-mount-inserts-374-c.asp
http://www.destoutz.ch/accessories_close-up.html
http://www.sciencecenter.net/hutech/bor ... /index.htm
mgoodm3: my question was (and is) what did you actually order (part #?) and from whom in China (e-mail addrress? company web site?) .
Charles: yes I'm hooked. Thanks for the useful info. Have ordered the 42.5-50mm ring and the NT52-301 (plus some other stuff) and waiting impatiently
Yesterday I used the El-Nikkor 50/2.8 mounted normally (non-reversed) at about 2.9x mag. and am very impressed with the resulting image quality, certainly nowhere approaching your image quality but presentable.
Charles: yes I'm hooked. Thanks for the useful info. Have ordered the 42.5-50mm ring and the NT52-301 (plus some other stuff) and waiting impatiently
Yesterday I used the El-Nikkor 50/2.8 mounted normally (non-reversed) at about 2.9x mag. and am very impressed with the resulting image quality, certainly nowhere approaching your image quality but presentable.
NU.
student of entomology
Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.
Nikon camera, lenses and objectives
Olympus microscope and objectives
student of entomology
Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.
Nikon camera, lenses and objectives
Olympus microscope and objectives
I predominantly use enlarging lenses reversed for >1:1, but I also like to see how well they perform normally mounted. For $15 shipped, it's a no lose situation for me. This adapter doesn't fit onto my extension tubes (kenko), but does fit fine on my Nikon bellows.
I want to get a longer enlarging lens (~135) to use normally mounted as a bellows lens (like the Nikon 105mm short mount).
http://cgi.ebay.com/m39-screw-lens-to-N ... 286.c0.m14
I want to get a longer enlarging lens (~135) to use normally mounted as a bellows lens (like the Nikon 105mm short mount).
http://cgi.ebay.com/m39-screw-lens-to-N ... 286.c0.m14
NU.
student of entomology
Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.
Nikon camera, lenses and objectives
Olympus microscope and objectives
student of entomology
Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.
Nikon camera, lenses and objectives
Olympus microscope and objectives
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augusthouse
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NU,
I'll upload some images of various EL-Nikkor configerations later today (Australian Time).
There are some differences in regard to mounting when dealing with the older (Mr Zenji Wakimoto) EL-Nikkors and the later (Mr Mori) EL-Nikkors.
Another link here to an older thread:
http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/v ... ht=nikkors
* edited to add important quote from older thread
I'll upload some images of various EL-Nikkor configerations later today (Australian Time).
There are some differences in regard to mounting when dealing with the older (Mr Zenji Wakimoto) EL-Nikkors and the later (Mr Mori) EL-Nikkors.
Another link here to an older thread:
http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/v ... ht=nikkors
CraigThere is a difference in the filter thread size (34.5mm) of the older (chrome base) 80, and 105 ELs (not sure about the 63mm). The later versions have a 40.5mm filter thread - the same as the original 50/f2.8. This is important to know for reverse mounting.
* edited to add important quote from older thread
Last edited by augusthouse on Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:24 am, edited 1 time in total.
To use a classic quote from 'Antz' - "I almost know exactly what I'm doing!"
NU.
student of entomology
Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.
Nikon camera, lenses and objectives
Olympus microscope and objectives
student of entomology
Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.
Nikon camera, lenses and objectives
Olympus microscope and objectives
-
augusthouse
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- Location: New South Wales Australia
Here is the EL-Nikkor 2.8/50mm reversed mounted.
Craig
*edits - uploaded replacement images...
To enclose and protect the end of a reversed Nikon lens, EL-Nikkor or Micro Nikkor I use a Nikon BR3. It allows you to attach filters... To use the BR3 with a reversed EL-Nikkor you will still need the 39mm to Nikon Mount adapter.
Craig
*edits - uploaded replacement images...
Last edited by augusthouse on Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:41 pm, edited 4 times in total.
To use a classic quote from 'Antz' - "I almost know exactly what I'm doing!"
Thanks Craig, proves the old adage "A picture (or 2) is worth a thousand words"
Your 50/2.8 differs from those of mgoodm3 and NU's - care to comment?
I have edited the Topic title to better reflect the contents of the discussion.
Perhaps someone will begin a new topic for another set-up.
Your 50/2.8 differs from those of mgoodm3 and NU's - care to comment?
I have edited the Topic title to better reflect the contents of the discussion.
Perhaps someone will begin a new topic for another set-up.
NU.
student of entomology
Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.
Nikon camera, lenses and objectives
Olympus microscope and objectives
student of entomology
Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.
Nikon camera, lenses and objectives
Olympus microscope and objectives
There are two versions of the 50mm El Nikkor f2.8 NikonUser, the old version and the newer f2.8N version. I presume the "N" stands for "New". I think Craig's is the old original version?
This is the "N" version which is I presume mgoodm3's and yours:-
http://www.ritzcam.com/catalog/images/EL-Nikkorn.jpg
I seem to recall Charles Krebs said the "N" version was the better one?
DaveW
This is the "N" version which is I presume mgoodm3's and yours:-
http://www.ritzcam.com/catalog/images/EL-Nikkorn.jpg
I seem to recall Charles Krebs said the "N" version was the better one?
DaveW
Thanks Dave. I had assumed the newer 'N" version had an "N" mark somewhere on the lens housing; my lens has no such marking (perhaps it was just on the box, which I do not have).
NU.
student of entomology
Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.
Nikon camera, lenses and objectives
Olympus microscope and objectives
student of entomology
Quote – Holmes on ‘Entomology’
” I suppose you are an entomologist ? “
” Not quite so ambitious as that, sir. I should like to put my eyes on the individual entitled to that name.
No man can be truly called an entomologist,
sir; the subject is too vast for any single human intelligence to grasp.”
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr
The Poet at the Breakfast Table.
Nikon camera, lenses and objectives
Olympus microscope and objectives