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ID please probably same species different sexes?

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Sorry they look very noisy when jpg compressed, not quite sure why, they only had a USM but maybe that was too much.

Found at about 1000m in northern spain. Does anyone know what they are? and if indeed they are the same species which sex is which? or are they just colour variants?


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I don't know a lot about beetles, Doug (beetleman) probably does but it looks like some kind of "click beetle" to me. Probably the more colorful one is the male. :D

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I think I know this on family level. I don't know its english name. I was lucky enough I found them on both the Hungarian and English Wikipedia page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buprestidae

I vote on that they are different species.
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See pictures on:
http://www.koleopterologie.de/gallery/f ... hl06e.html

What do you think about Anthaxia manca for the second one?
Or more likely Anthaxia hungarica?
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Post by rovebeetle »

Yes, it is quite possible that this is male and female of a sexually dimorphic species.

BTW - Buprestidae (Wood Boring Beetles) is correct, more precise - genus Anthaxia.
ASA I am back in the institute tomorrow I might even find out which species. There are numerous species in that genus but only a few with that color pattern of the pronotum.

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acerola wrote:See pictures on:
http://www.koleopterologie.de/gallery/f ... hl06e.html

What do you think about Anthaxia manca for the second one?
Or more likely Anthaxia hungarica?
Seems we hit the submit button simultaneously :D

It is definitely not A. manca.
A. hungarica was my first thought but then I saw that the pic was shot in Spain and there might be more species that look quite similar. Anyway, A. hungarica is already very close to the mark.

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Post by tpe »

A hungarica (jewel beetle, metalic wood boaring beetle) looks and sounds most like it, especially the habitat, near oak in hilly and mountainus regions. However, it has not been reported in spain, only a few 100 KM away on the other side of the french spanish border. It sounds as if they could be colour variants of the same species as they were both on yellow flowers, a habit that is mostly male. The all green one was noticably bigger though, which makes me think sexual dimorphism but difficult to say. At http://www.biolib.cz/en/taxonimage/id40 ... xonid=9112 the green one is listed as male but the other has no sex specification.

Just found another link http://www.naturamediterraneo.com/forum ... C_ID=28976 where the green is cited as male and the other as female. It is in Italian but I think it is understandable with help of google.

There does not seem to a great amount of literature on them so probably not too much of a pest :)

Many thanks for the help, now to go and look for some more and get the saturation up as nice as other peoples pictures :).

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Post by rovebeetle »

Hi Tim!

There are several Anthaxia species which are sexually dimorphic, and usually it's always the females that have the more spectacular make-up
- typical :D .

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Post by Harold Gough »

The first looks like an Agrilus species.

The second does look very much like an Anthaxia species.

Try: http://www.hlasek.com/ccbroucikrasci1an.html

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