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I cannot even begin to identify this - help please!!

 
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JoanYoung



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: I cannot even begin to identify this - help please!! Reply with quote

I found this on my walk yesterday but unfortunately it was dead already or else I would hve brought it home to see what it developes into.
It was situated on the leaf of a tree about 4 foot off the ground and is about 12mm in length.
Can anyone tell me what it might be??




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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's pretty dried up, but from the shape of the wingpads, the antennae, the eyes, and the thorax, I'd guess that this is a wasp that died just barely after emerging from the pupa, before having a chance to expand its wings. Maybe one of the solitary species that bores in wood, or parasitizes other larvae that do? Hard to tell for sure. Confused

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Rik, that is a great help. Very Happy I certainly seem to find weird things on my walks. Smile There was a strange fly too but I will post it tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Rik is dead on with this one.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even with a fully developed specimen, someone capable of identifying it, and with the specimen in front of them, might have to turn it on its back and/or on its side, and generally view it from all angles. So the two shots were helpful. In some cases more might have helped.

With a specimen which has neither expanded its wings and abdomen, nor coloured up, there are limits to what can be done. It looks like a wasp and would have to be a solitary species to be so exposed, colonial ones emerging in their nest.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my guess was some sort of wasp/bee that didnt develop as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for the input. I should have taken a picture of the underside too but did not think of it at the time. I appreciate all the help on this one. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange-looking thing, Joan. I've not seen one just die like that. Would be a bit creepy to walk along and find it unexpectedly!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tis a creepy looking critter fer sure. Reminds me of those cicada carapaces I find around every now and again. No, I would not venture even a guess as to what it could be, though I agree with the concensus that it may be a wasp. Good shots Joan. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the comments. It definitely was creepy looking and I thought it might be some kind of cricket, but my knowledge of these things is less than nil. Smile
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