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Carl_Constantine



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: It's been a LONG TIME Reply with quote

HELLO EVERYBODY!!!! (*think Grover)

Happy New Year to everyone.

It's been a LONG time (too long) since I was here last. My life has been a roller coaster for quite some time. I still won't be here as often as I would like, but I will be browsing the forums, taking some pics and uploading and learning from everyone.

So, just to pop in and say HELLO!

It's good to be back!
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rjlittlefield
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back, Carl. Very Happy

Been wondering if you'd gone away and left us!

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Carl_Constantine



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, just busy as all get out.

Still actually trying to get a decent avatar to be below 6K, I just can't do it with any decent detail/resolution. at 65x56 and png format, it's still like 7-8K. DANG IT! Crying or Very sad
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rjlittlefield
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PNG files are not normally very tight for images. 3 bytes/pixel, often with little or no compression.

Try it as JPEG and GIF, one or the other is likely to be a lot better.

My avatar is now 13.3 KB as PNG 24-bit, 7.3 KB as PNG 8-bit, 5.8 KB as GIF, 5 KB as GIF if reduced to 65x56.

Thanks for prompting me to take a look at my own avatar. I host on my own server, so there was no limit enforced. I was significantly over the 6KB guideline (limit for hosting on photomacrography2.net).

--Rik
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Carl_Constantine



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AH HA!!! sneaky, forgot you can do that.

Thanks for reminding me Rik!
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rjlittlefield
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, actually my comment was meant to be a suggestion about how to reduce the size of your avatar, not a suggestion to host it someplace else. Avatars have to load on everybody's pages, so the smaller the better. But it's not worth spending hours of effort on.

I simply had not paid any attention to the KB of my avatar because nothing prompted me to.

I was interested to discover that by shrinking it only very slightly, and converting it to gif, it went under the 6KB guideline with no problem. Also interesting was that jpeg format couldn't get even close to that small without completely messing up the image. Apparently that avatar of mine just has so much fine detail in it, that it ties jpeg's hands regarding compression.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, by the way...

I do have to enforce the limit on 80x80 maximum pixels, no matter where the avatar is hosted.

The reason is that avatar size affects the page format. A large avatar in any reply may cut into the original poster's space for their image.

Offhand I don't see any ill effects from the size you have, but I'd appreciate shrinking it to within guidelines, just to be safe.

Thanks! Very Happy

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salden



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back Carl. It is good to see you on the forums again Very Happy
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Carl_Constantine



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rjlittlefield wrote:
Oh, by the way...

I do have to enforce the limit on 80x80 maximum pixels, no matter where the avatar is hosted.

The reason is that avatar size affects the page format. A large avatar in any reply may cut into the original poster's space for their image.

Offhand I don't see any ill effects from the size you have, but I'd appreciate shrinking it to within guidelines, just to be safe.

Thanks! Very Happy

--Rik


OK, done. I even tried converting this image to a gif (in fireworks 'cuz for some stupid reason PS doesn't save as gif -- that's why I used PNG in the first place) and the gif image was larger in size 20k vs the 12k jpeg.

ahh nuts. I don't even have as many colors and it's only 8bit/pix. oh well. got it now.

Thanks,

OH, and Hello to you too Sue, good to be back.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for shrinking the avatar, Carl. It looks good, BTW. Very Happy

Carl_Constantine wrote:
...for some stupid reason PS doesn't save as gif...

In Photoshop, you have to explicitly convert images to Image | Mode | Indexed Color.

After you've done that, then it'll show you the gif option. But not before. Confusing...

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puzzledpaul



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

<< have to explicitly convert images to Image | Mode | Indexed Color. >>

Hmmm... again, Rik ... interesting the difference with PS 5.5 Smile

Get the Gif option 'up front' when saving (as) ...and then the options Smile

'Progress', eh ?

Hi, Carl, btw.

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