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A spider and some strange insects

 
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davholla



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:37 am    Post subject: A spider and some strange insects Reply with quote

I saw this spider the other day and am reasonably happy with how it turned out.
SpiderEF7A4092 by davholla2002, on Flickr
At my parents house in South London/North Kent, I turned over a stone to photograph the ant woodlice and saw these 2 insects which in 20+ years of looking under stones there I have never seen before.
A) They were not cooperative
B) I got a migraine so only took 2 photos
So the quality is not very good, however as they are so unusual I thought that I would share them, any ideas what they are?
Unknown EF7A3896 by davholla2002, on Flickr

Two unknowns EF7A3895.CR2 by davholla2002, on Flickr
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rjlittlefield
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: A spider and some strange insects Reply with quote

davholla wrote:
any ideas what they are?

The general appearance suggests to me an immature "root aphid", perhaps some sort of Phylloxera .

What you have are almost certainly not true aphids because they have no visible cornicles .

--Rik
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davholla



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: A spider and some strange insects Reply with quote

rjlittlefield wrote:
davholla wrote:
any ideas what they are?

The general appearance suggests to me an immature "root aphid", perhaps some sort of Phylloxera .

What you have are almost certainly not true aphids because they have no visible cornicles .

--Rik

Thanks for that presumably they are farmed by the L Flavus ants.
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MarkSturtevant



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good! I venture that the spiders are a kind of running crab spider. One is being eaten.
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davholla



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I think it is a spider moulting
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Grahame



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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The white one in pic 3 is most likely collembola, really diverse looking critters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springtail
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