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DQE
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 Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:09 am Post subject: Photoshop CS6 becoming available soon |
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I just noticed that Adobe seems close to announcing the availability of Photoshop CS6 and CS6 Extended, and are taking pre-orders.
Here's the price list for upgrades:
https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopextended/buying-guide-upgrades.html
and for full purchases:
https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopextended/buying-guide.html
They're also pushing buying a "cloud" subscription at $49/month, where one gains access to all the major Adobe products.
I was somewhat surprised at their upgrade price. Even for my upgrade from CS5 Extended, the upgrade price is $399 US dollars.
Previously, they had announced, as best I could follow the topic, that one could only upgrade "inexpensively" from CS5 or CS5 Extended, and that upgrading from even older versions would require even more money. However, I see that they now show one upgrade price for all Photoshop versions, possibly due to protests from their user community.
Upgrading is also stressful for me since I depend a lot on plug-ins and they often don't work with new releases for 3-12 months.
When I upgraded from CS4 to CS5 (two years ago), I paid $349, which was bad enough. Maybe I'll skip this upgrade unless some features I really need or want are present. Also, I need to review customer experiences re bugs and/or computer sluggishness before buying - some users claim that the newest Lightroom upgrade seems to be much slower.
Has anyone tried the Photoshop CS6 Beta?
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ChrisRaper
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:20 am Post subject: |
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I think you did a typo in the title? CS5 or CS6? 
But in general I agree. I know they can charge what the market will pay but I am constantly amazed at how expensive the full product is, when you consider how many million units they must sell around the world. |
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DQE
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| ChrisRaper wrote: | I think you did a typo in the title? CS5 or CS6?
But in general I agree. I know they can charge what the market will pay but I am constantly amazed at how expensive the full product is, when you consider how many million units they must sell around the world. |
Thanks for catching my typo in the thread title. I just fixed it.
I very much agree - the initial retail purchase price, without educational or other discounts, is quite remarkable. Even the upgrade price is very annoying at almost $400 US dollars. I will only consider acquiring it if I read that CS6 is reasonably bug-free and computationally efficient, especially with so many negative comments about the latest Lightroom's computational efficiency.
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naturephoto1
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| DQE wrote: | | ChrisRaper wrote: | I think you did a typo in the title? CS5 or CS6?
But in general I agree. I know they can charge what the market will pay but I am constantly amazed at how expensive the full product is, when you consider how many million units they must sell around the world. |
Thanks for catching my typo in the thread title. I just fixed it.
I very much agree - the initial retail purchase price, without educational or other discounts, is quite remarkable. Even the upgrade price is very annoying at almost $400 US dollars. I will only consider acquiring it if I read that CS6 is reasonably bug-free and computationally efficient, especially with so many negative comments about the latest Lightroom's computational efficiency. |
Hi Phil,
There is always the upgrade to just CS6 which is $199. Have you found the additional features in CS5 Extended to be that valuable for the additional cost over the standard version?
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Chris S.
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| naturephoto1 wrote: | | Have you found the additional features in CS5 Extended to be that valuable for the additional cost over the standard version? |
I constantly use the analysis menu, which I believe is present only in the extended version. I've used it to compare surface areas of leaves, quantify cracking in small man-made objects, quickly measure structures using a scale set according to my stage micrometer, etc. Away from photomacrography, I find the analysis menu invaluable for working with aerial photos--determining the size of wetlands, the extent of vegetation coverage, etc.
Lots of people wouldn't find these capabilties useful, and there are other ways to get the jobs done. But if you do this sort of thing a lot, the analysis menu makes it very convenient.
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DQE
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| Chris S. wrote: | | naturephoto1 wrote: | | Have you found the additional features in CS5 Extended to be that valuable for the additional cost over the standard version? |
I constantly use the analysis menu, which I believe is present only in the extended version. I've used it to compare surface areas of leaves, quantify cracking in small man-made objects, quickly measure structures using a scale set according to my stage micrometer, etc. Away from photomacrography, I find the analysis menu invaluable for working with aerial photos--determining the size of wetlands, the extent of vegetation coverage, etc.
Lots of people wouldn't find these capabilties useful, and there are other ways to get the jobs done. But if you do this sort of thing a lot, the analysis menu makes it very convenient.
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Same here re the Extended version's uses, except that for me, it's mostly just an exploratory tool, stimulated by my work involvement with statistics, etc. Sometimes a length measurement is useful, too.
I've just figured out that books explaining the features of Photoshop CS6 aren't available until July, 2012. Probably most of the useful new features are simple enough to figure out with the built-in help, etc, but still... Yet if I wait, I'll simply have less time before the next upgrade cycle to use the new release!
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DQE
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I've seen some seemingly credible indications that Adobe will release Photoshop CS6 for sale on May 7, 2012.
I wonder if any of their "3D" features would be useful with respect to stereo pairs in macro? It seems to that Zerene's synthetic 3D stereo pair feature provides much or most of what one realistically needs for macro work.
I am attracted by some of the new features in CS6, in particular, improved cloning tool and content aware selection-related stuff.
Based on my mixed CS5 upgrade experiences, I wish I knew which of my commonly used add-ins/plug-ins will work with CS6-64bits. Having a fav add-in fail to work is not enjoyable - one has switch back and forth with the prior Photoshop version for some add-ins.
I guess the only solution is to make a list of add-ins and check with the supplying vendors. My Nik add-ins in particular have become a key part of my personal workflow, along with Noiseware and probably a few others. I confess that I am addicted to Photoshop add-ins!
Oh, well...it's only money!
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Photoshop CS6 went on sale at adobe.com today.
Predictably, I couldn't resist and upgraded my Photoshop CS5 extended edition (64 bit) to CS6 extended edition (64 bit). The 32-bit version is upgraded too, automatically, probably for compatibility reasons with various plugins, etc. I am running Win7-64bit. AFAIK, the upgrade is only available through adobe.com.
It's about a 1GB download, which then expands to about 1.7 GB for installation into one's target folder tree. The upgrade and install went smoothly except that the Akamai installer got stuck in an infinite loop, repeatedly decompressing the downloaded package. I finally had to hit the cancel button and then finish the install from the "setup.exe" file. This went smoothly and automatically once I reset the target installation folder tree to a non-default location (I don't use the default installation folder on the C drive, putting most non-Windows software on a separate SSD "hard drive".
So far, so good, and I like the look and feel of the interfaces. No apparent bugs or crashes while casually editing a couple of 5DII-based raw photos. I'm hoping to do some basic computational efficiency tests vs CS5 "soon". I noticed that building full-size (100%) previews in Bridge/ACR uses all of my PC's 4 real and 4 virtual cores, with about 85% average CPU usage, which I consider to be a good sign. Much better than only using one or two cores, like so much software.
Now I have to get my zillion plugins and Photoshop preference settings transferred and tested. I was relieved to read that my Nik plugins should all work with CS6-64bit.
The new ACR v7 interface and sliders looks interesting, requiring one to select the "Process 2012" dropdown menu setting in Bridge, under the "camera icon" tab. These ACR/Bridge basic processing sliders are "adaptive" to each photo in new ways, from what I've read, unlike the previous fully manual image processing sliders. The meaning of some of the sliders is quite different, too. For example, there is no "recovery" slider, but its functions are built into other differently named slider(s).
If anyone has a specific, reasonably simple issue re Photoshop CS6, I'd be glad to investigate.
More later.
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DQE
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Below is a link to what may be the only commercially published book that is immediately available for Photoshop CS6. Other books will be coming out in the summer months, etc. I look forward to the planned books on Photoshop CS6 by Martin Evening, my personal fav Photoshop author - I've really benefited from his CS5 books.
http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920022718.do
Amazon provides their usual "look inside" info here:
http://www.amazon.com/Photoshop-CS6-Missing-Manual-Manuals/dp/1449316158/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1336681114&sr=1-4
I bought this book in KIndle e-book format for $39 US from amazon.com. It's soon to be available in paperback for $27. For $59, O'reilly offers a print + e-book combination package.
For an extra $5 US, Oreilly.com allows one to load it DRM-free into one's Kindle and/or other e-book readers, and to also obtain a DRM-free PDF copy for one's PC, etc. I decided this feature was worth having and bought it.
The associated image files used in the book are available from oreilly.com as a 146 MByte zip file. AFAIK, this is freely and openly accessible here:
http://missingmanuals.com/cds/photoshopcs6mm/
The author has previously published "Missing Manual" books for CS5. My initial impression of this CS6 book is favorable. I'll add more comments after I've used it for a while, and after I've become more familiar with Photoshop CS6.
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Title: Photoshop CS6: The Missing Manual
By: Lesa Snider
Publisher: O'Reilly Media / Pogue Press
Formats: Print, Ebook, Safari Books Online
Print: May 2012 (est.)
Ebook: May 2012
Pages: 888 (est.)
Print ISBN: 978-1-4493-1615-0; ISBN 10: 1-4493-1615-8
Ebook ISBN: 978-1-4493-1614-3; ISBN 10: 1-4493-1614-X
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