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A Cheap Ring Flash or Flash Bracket for existing flash?

 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:44 pm    Post subject: A Cheap Ring Flash or Flash Bracket for existing flash? Reply with quote

Hi Guys,

Need some help here.I am planning to buy the Canon MP E 65mm for the 550D and I was wondering whether to invest in a ringflash system like the bower or buy a flash bracket like wimberley and extend my Yongnuo near the subject?

The cheap ring flash do not have manual controls,so kind of confused which will work best.

Need some inputs on this.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would extend the regular flash. Ringflash will produce a distinctive and unnatural ring-shaped reflection on shiny surfaces. The regular flash will produce obvious reflections too, but they will look more natural and you can tailor their appearance by adding diffusers and/or repositioning the flash.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anvancy,

Here is one suggestion. There are similar alternatives used by various members detailed in other threads.

http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=91565#91565

The variable friction arm was approximately USD $20.00 + shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/250820173077


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Rik.Even I was thinking of the extension since I prefer controlling the flash power along with the camera controls.

I use the Lumiquest Softbox III for my yonguo flash.

Thanks Craig.That was exactly what I was looking for. I have a question for you.I will be using on the field.I dont have a studio setup.Now the confusion is whether to buy the 7" or the 11"? I have marked that half of the time macro shots are taken in very compressed areas,so will the 11" be an overkill?

And any tips on using the MP-E on the 550D?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anvancy,

One benefit of the 11" articulating arm is it will reach the front of an MP-E fully extended at 5X or even a bellows.

Anvancy wrote:
I have marked that half of the time macro shots are taken in very compressed areas,so will the 11" be an overkill?

The 11" folds away, or can be positioned so as not to be intrusive. It is very accommodating with regard to adaptation for use with various configerations.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Craig. Ill keep you posted. any tips on using the MP E specially on an ultra crop sensor like the 550D?

What I have observed is many use it on the 5D Mk II or the 7D.but never anybody used on the 550D.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anvancy wrote:
What I have observed is many use it on the 5D Mk II or the 7D.but never anybody used on the 550D.

I use it on the T1i = 500D. No surprises, works fine. Still delivers 1-5X which on the crop sensor means subject width of 22.3 mm (at 1X) down to 4.46 mm (at 5X). You have to stop down less than on full-frame to keep diffraction under control, but that just goes along with the proportionally smaller subject size.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anvancy,

Yes, I have used the MP-E 65mm on a Canon 50D (APS-C), actually that's where it resides (at present).

As Rik has confirmed, "no surprises, works fine".


http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8825

http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=53751#53751

http://www.photomacrography.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8806


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Craig and Rik. it seems then the MP E will work fine on the 550D. the additional MPs may be useful for cropping.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rik and Craig,

I plan to buy the following:
The Canon MP E 65mm.
The 11"friction arm to extend the flash.
and now planning for Velbon Super Mag Slider.
Will the mag slider be worth or its only worth if I am doing studio shots?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anvancy wrote:
and now planning for Velbon Super Mag Slider.
Will the mag slider be worth or its only worth if I am doing studio shots?

I have no personal experience with the Velbon Super Mag Slider, but searching the forum finds THIS:
dickb wrote:
I've got the Velbon Super Mag Slider. Slider is a misnomer, it consists of two worm drives. One turn on either drive moves the camera 3,9mm. Out of the box, the movement is rather loose and several reviewers claimed it to less than perfectly stable, but tightening a few screws allows you to set the stiffness to your desired amount. I like using the short, lightweight drive with 30mm travel in the field.

An alternative to Velbon is a Velmex slide, for example as discussed HERE.

For bench use at high magnification, 3.9mm per turn of a small knob is too much. You would do better there with a Velmex or a Proxxon KT-70 table (1 mm per turn, with option to add a bigger knob) or one of the other options discussed in FAQ: What's the best way to focus when stacking?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rjlittlefield wrote:
anvancy wrote:
and now planning for Velbon Super Mag Slider.
Will the mag slider be worth or its only worth if I am doing studio shots?

I have no personal experience with the Velbon Super Mag Slider, but searching the forum finds THIS:
dickb wrote:
I've got the Velbon Super Mag Slider. Slider is a misnomer, it consists of two worm drives. One turn on either drive moves the camera 3,9mm. Out of the box, the movement is rather loose and several reviewers claimed it to less than perfectly stable, but tightening a few screws allows you to set the stiffness to your desired amount. I like using the short, lightweight drive with 30mm travel in the field.

An alternative to Velbon is a Velmex slide, for example as discussed HERE.

For bench use at high magnification, 3.9mm per turn of a small knob is too much. You would do better there with a Velmex or a Proxxon KT-70 table (1 mm per turn, with option to add a bigger knob) or one of the other options discussed in FAQ: What's the best way to focus when stacking?

--Rik


Having both a couple of Velmex units and a Proxxon KT-70, I would say if you can find a Velmex unit for a better price, my preference would easily be to get the Velmex.

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