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,, thanks Ken,,, this is another one of those,, actually got 2 shots off on this guy before he took off,, not a whole lot of time to adjust thanks again for the input It does need some DOF adjustmentKen Ramos wrote:Like the back lighting in this but again, it seems you need to crank up the flash a bit and stop down more for better DOF. Then again...I dunno, can't do much better myself most of the time.